Dachshaus kennel- pedigree of my dogs

[dachshaus]

Hi friends,
Breeding is very interesting theme, and each breeder has something to say. WE have so perfect possibility now to talk about breeding thank to this forum and the Internet.
I would be glad to answer to any question about my breeding here. My main position is:
1. Our own dogs are breeding animals and we must know as much as possible about their hereditary to try bred them well.
2. No one dog is free from visible or hidden hereditary defects and we must balance between our aims and reality to bred as best as possible.
3.Of course, it is naive and idealistic, but lets try ;D

Really, we are only temporary keeprs of the breed and we must be maximally honest and open to keep our breed maximally health for future owners...
(PPS, I know few forums died because such topics, ouuups... ;D)

(PPPPPS, my next idealistic dream is organizate the data base for hereditary problems for dachshund... But here we have a great market problem, because near no one breeder wants to speak about )

[dachshaus]

my miniature breeding began from standard sized female Ch.Vnuchka Moja Orelin (8kg), who was the 2nd generation of my own breeding. During my mini sized breeding I had got only 1 standard sized offspring (male Turbulent Dachshaus-7kg, his sire is kaninchen Linus v.Dinkelgrund, his dam is zwerg IntCh.Pink Emotion Dachshaus the first generation of my minis from standard sized Vnuchka)

[dachshaus]

I imported few American dogs, because European mini breeding is too much influenced by 3 males from D"Arisca kennel (the sons from one female D"Arisca Delicacy). I have nothing from inbreeding, because inbreeding the good instrument to get quality dogs with stabile hereditary, but I would be glad to work a bit out:-)
So here is my last import zwerg red boy and his pedigree:

Jager zet Eurosportu DoB. 29.March.2008

sire: Ch.Dynadaux Honky Tonk Bar N Grill MS
sire of sire: Ch.Dynadaux Hillbilly People Like US MS
(Ch.Poohdachs" Own Dos MS x Ch.Dynadaux Hillbillie Heaven MS)
dam of sire: Ch.Dynadaux Little Miss Honky Tonk MS
(Ch.Sondebar Boomerang MS x DC Dynadaux Rock My World MS)
dam: Ynot"s No Fences MSP
sire of dam: Ch.Duchwood Sound of Silemce MSP
(Kinders Light Saber MS x Duchwoods Black Pepper MS)
dam of dam: Ch.Denhavems Wire From Home MW
(Ch.Denhavens Gogilo MW x Denhavens Home Baked PI)

[dachshaus]

alistes wrote: - I am curious if your "idealistic dream is organizate the data base for hereditary problems for dachshund... But here we have a great market problem, because near no one breeder wants to speak about" will be realised. I also would like to discuss healthproblems in dogs.

Dachshaus answers: Yes, I know that it doesnt easy to speak about health problem of REAL dogs belonged to REAL people, but I dont afraid to begin ;D ;D
I am a vet and breed dogs near 30 years, so what may be a new horor for me? ;D ;D

[windecke]

It is an interesting thing:
Is a breeder breeding for a "market" or is the intention of breeding the love and wish to keep a species or race healthy and
acceptable for the future?
In that case we can hardly breed well without the exchange and knowledge of true informations to keep our beloved dachshunds in a high and healthy quality we all wish them to be!
I also would like to discuss healthproblems of the dogs,as good as I can(I am not a vet or genetical specialist),thanks for opening this thread!

[decibels]

Nov 26, 2008 4:41:47 GMT -5 dachshaus said:

3.Of course, it is naive and idealistic, but lets try ;D

you are just the same naive and idealistic as I am....;-)

I have set-up a public data-base for PRA-results. Because I think that everyone must have the change to see what in some bloodline is or not. Here in Holland eyetest results are not public. The Dutch dachshundclub have its own database with all testresults but they keep it 'closed'. My public data-base is setting up more then a half year ago and so far only a few breeders have given me the eyetest results and pedigrees from their dogs. And I do not understand this....!! I think it is important for good breeding to 'know' as much as you can, whát you'r doing. As long as there is no DNA test for PRA you only have the eyetest results to know.

www.decibels.nl/databank/

Marijke

[alistes]

Nov 28, 2008 4:05:41 GMT -5 windecke said:

It is an interesting thing:
Is a breeder breeding for a "market" or is the intention of breeding the love and wish to keep a species or race healthy and
acceptable for the future?
In that case we can hardly breed well without the exchange and knowledge of true informations to keep our beloved dachshunds in a high and healthy quality we all wish them to be!
I also would like to discuss healthproblems of the dogs,as good as I can(I am not a vet or genetical specialist),thanks for opening this thread!

@ Windecke: thanks for your post!
I also want to keep the dachshund races healthy and acceptable for the future and I am happy with this international dachshund forum. Hope everybody will as open as possible accourding to healtproblems in the dachshunds.
For a start: in which country do you live? I see no country or name in your profile.
Not all countries have the same healthrules. In scandinavia is comon to do X rays. In the Netherlands we don't.

@ dachshaus: is it possible to make a list with health- and breeding rules by the countries of origine of the forummembers? So members can fill in a kind of form what rules they have at the moment.
Perhaps is wanted to discuss healthproblems in dachshund in a closed part of this forum in case people do not give their names in the profile.
This to avoid the forum to colapse.

[dachshaus]

For beginning and specially to give you some food for speaking ;D
I wand to give you a short resume for Lunar Lioness" offspring. her pedigree is here:
www.dachshaus.cz/lunar_lioness_pup_dachshaus_en
Her mom Pink Emotion Dachshaus was a product of maximally possible out breeding: Vnuchka Moja Orelin was standard female and D"Arisca Ambrose was miniature imported from UK.
there was 2 kryprotchids in my P-litter and 1 male (not used for breeding, imported to Canada) has have some immunology problems, what doesnt a great surprise, because my foundation standard female Polifinia Li-Za Provincial (also from outbred) had have few allegical reactions and skin problems during her 15 year life.
Pink Emotion never had any immunology or skin problem, but died by oesophagus cancer (first case in my practic) at the age of 8yo. Anywhere she never smoked (bad joke...)
Lunar Lioness was born in the 5-pups litter. The solitary male has short breast bone and lives as a pet, one female had heavy bechavioural problems (crazy shy and aggressive, was afraid people and any contact from her 2 wo and later was ought to put sleep, because all the life was a horror for her - also the first and very hope the last case in my practic)-. + 1 female had have only 4 incissors.
At the first Lunars litter sired by Sulaatik"s Juventus was 1 puppy with Pectus Excavatum - very rare for dachshunds and mostly met in bulldogs or molosses.
At the second litter sired by Midernochs Dzieki there was 1 very small female 2,5kg also she has only 4 incissors in low jaw + undershot + 1 male has skin problems (dry skin with near bold coat). For fun no else one Lunars offspring or any another pup from my kennel has such skin problems... Globally I am very proud by my doxie coat...
At the 3rd litter sired by Duchwoods Cut in Stone 1 pup has undershot and no 1x P2.
At the 4th litter sired by FranzFerdinand the male has short breast bone
At the 5th litter sired by Bonlons Slippin N Sliden 1 pup has no 1xP1, nothing more...
The 6th litter was born yesterday ;D

[decibels]

@ Dachshaus.

Are there no breeding rules in your country? I mean...Lunar will be 7 years old next januari and at the moment she has her 6th litter? In the Netherlands a female may have NOT more then 5 litters in her whole live...no matter what breed/race it is. That's a rule from the kennelclub.

[dachshaus]

We have the next rules for breeding in CZ in short cut:
1. The dog must be shown in CZ at the age after 12mo for standards and at the age after 15mo for mini with the Excellent or Very Good result.
2. The dog must successefully pass the breeding commettee after the age 12mo for standards and 15mo for minis. This commettee give or not give breeding permission. That commettee check up the whole dog again, includes weight, ribcage measurement, teeth, movement, coat etc etc....
3. The dog must have hunting diploma (standards den-earth dog exam + Spurlaut; minis any hunting test from CZ or only den trial from abroad trials)
4. Standards must be fullteethed, minis may have absent any 2 teeth from cathegory P1 or M3.
5. A female may be bred once a calender year until 8yo, you must do the health examenation by vet if you want to bred your female after 8yo age.

We sometimes have some small changing in breeding rules depends on this very club administration. We have elections every 4 years. So some times ago it was necessary to do DNA test for paternity for every new breeding dog/female, but after few scandals and next voting it was ruled out ;D
also during some time it was necessary to do PRA/Cat test, now it doesnt necessary for breeding, but i do the PRA/Cat and patella luxation tests for all my breeding dogs....

(BTW this Lunar" litter is done by cooperation with TSERTUS kennel, breeder Svetlana Kharkovskaya, St.Petersburg, Russia, where this litter will be registered
BTW-2, Lunar is absolutely healthy girl, she whelp very easy and has milk up to 2mo of her pups, her pups usually are strong and have no problems. I cut out any female with reproduction problems, even champion with no any other defect )

[decibels]

Nov 29, 2008 15:14:32 GMT -5 dachshaus said:

4. Standards must be fullteethed, minis may have absent any 2 teeth from cathegory P1 or M3.

the FCI breedstandard say something different...

5. A female may be bred once a calender year until 8yo, you must do the health examenation by vet if you want to bred your female after 8yo age.

OK...but she is almost 7 and right now she has her 6th litter. Does that mean she had her first litter at the age of one year old?

In our country the maximum age for a litter is 7 years and 12 months. No exceptions.

[dachshaus]

decibels wrote

4. Standards must be fullteethed, minis may have absent any 2 teeth from cathegory P1 or M3.

the FCI breedstandard say something different...
Dachshaus answered: Yes, but up to FCI rules any national club may do the rules more "seriouse" up to local terms...

Decibels wrote:

OK...but she is almost 7 and right now she has her 6th litter. Does that mean she had her first litter at the age of one year old?

In our country the maximum age for a litter is 7 years and 12 months. No exceptions.

dachshaus answered: Each club has a bit different rules, also Lunar now was mated the last time and at right the next heat after the last her litter, so it is how she has 6 litters at 7 years.

[decibels]

Each club has a bit different rules,

I know...that why I'm asked...

[dachshaus]

;D I hope I have answered..... ;D

[dachshaus]

Oups, both "my conversation colleges" are dissapeared from here, now they are simply guests:-)))))
This topic works as the repellent or it is something different???:-))))