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Post by Kantrace on Oct 20, 2009 8:15:38 GMT -5
kinchville, I think they are brown and tan  |
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 20, 2009 8:22:43 GMT -5
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 8:34:07 GMT -5
I have chocolate puppies many times, this is chocolate  but this red puppy  I agree with Marika. This is no doubt that puppies on photos are red |
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Post by Kantrace on Oct 20, 2009 10:38:19 GMT -5
that's strange...I know that to get red dog one of the parents should be red...now I can see I was wrong
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 20, 2009 10:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by Kantrace on Oct 20, 2009 11:02:12 GMT -5
yes, maybe is best to wait maybe they are e-reds (recessive reds) At your homepage i found a photo of a very nice puppy. Is that the puppy who is coming to Croatia?  |
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Post by Cyberdachs on Oct 20, 2009 11:09:33 GMT -5
Yes...  Bloodline is full Grandgables... |
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 11:32:00 GMT -5
that's strange...I know that to get red dog one of the parents should be red...now I can see I was wrong You are not wrong. One parent of red puppy must be red. |
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Post by Excellmagic on Oct 20, 2009 11:38:30 GMT -5
Dear Tibor and Tihana,
The most of time the RED coloure of Dachshunds is Dominant!
So, from c/t male and b/t female ONLY possible to have b/t and c/t puppies (if b/t female has a coffee gene).
If some one puppy is born a RED coloure - you should to do a GENE-test of all litter, because probably some of puppies have another father, some of them could be from Quintus.
I think - some of b/t or all of b/t puppies could be from Quintus, BUT RED PUPPIES HAVE ANOTHER FATHER!
sorry, but it's truth.
Tibor, when your puppies was born, I told you on a facebook about RED coloure of your puppy (which one you was write "c/t male")
p.s. I'm so sorry about it!
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 11:39:40 GMT -5
maybe they are e-reds (recessive reds) ee red has NO black hair. this is ee-red dachshund puppy  |
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 11:48:19 GMT -5
Kate, you are wrong. It is ee-red dachshund puppy. another ee-red dachshund puppy  |
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Post by Excellmagic on Oct 20, 2009 12:18:22 GMT -5
Yes, I'm  Tibor, you can kill me, but this puppy he is not looking like ee-red puppy, so he is a mormal RED puppy, so - you can do GENEs-test and you could see, you are right or not. SORRY!!!!! |
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 13:31:06 GMT -5
Excellmagic.. Yes you is Red puppy... Father is Quintus mother is Christmas.. If you like your or not This true..!!! If, yes it is revolution in genetics. Quintus genotype - atatbb Christmas genotype - atatBB (or atatBb if she has choco gen) they can produce only atatBb(black and tan with choco gen) if Christmas has no choco gen, or if she has choco gen atatBb and atatbb (choco and tan). Both parents has not ay gen so they cant produce red without red partner. |
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Post by kinchville on Oct 20, 2009 13:39:29 GMT -5
Please if you have free minute read this article www.lildachs.com/genetics.htm there is an example of meeting black&tan and choco&tan dachshund in genetic terms. |
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 21, 2009 3:06:37 GMT -5
hm.. nice attempt, but not seriouse:-)) Because even a child may have his own opinion if he can count 2+2... But may be you will hear what I say, because I am a vet, dachshund breeder from 1981, have many genetical/biological articles published and used to work as a lecturer at many kynological kurzes at different countries:-))) Here I see a luck your your education programm... Doesn matter how many red ancestors has Christmas, these her puppies have dark shadow over their red basic colour, so they are dominant red, so as a result these pups have not inherited such colour from their mom, so they could get such colour from their sire. ;D But Quintus also CANT be a father of these RED pups, no chance. Quintus may produce the spermatozoids with choco pigmentation + tan-markering ONLY. Christmas may produce oocites with black/or may be choco pigmented and tan-markering ONLY. So no chance to get from such 2 dogs a red dark shadowed puppy. I am repeat: these puppies doesnt tan-markered nor choco-pigmented, not even resessive red coloulored, because they are shadowed by darker hairs over the red basic colour. Such a puppy may be born ONLY IF as minimum ONE parent IS RED. No any another possibility.  |
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 21, 2009 4:43:53 GMT -5
Cyberdachs, it is no connection with your previouse litters, but no one choco-tan dog or puppy has the mix of 2 different coloured hairs over the body, in case IF this dog not red or wild boar coloured.
Your "problematic" pups have good visible "mixture" of 2 different coloured tones: light and dark coloured hairs over the body, so they are domimant red or wild boar colourd, you may choose the any of these 2 variants:-))) but both are not suit to that sire...
try to make new photos ;D
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Post by Cyberdachs on Oct 21, 2009 5:04:47 GMT -5
Dachause... That I look my puppies on your big problem...  I hope this puppies NOT they will look so on future... ;D   |
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 21, 2009 6:34:15 GMT -5
Oh, so childish answer... It is clear that you dont ready to forum communication...
And dont worry, I will not sale this dog to you!
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Post by kinchville on Oct 21, 2009 6:38:09 GMT -5
I hope this puppies NOT they will look so on future... ;D Yes, you puppy wouldnt be chocolate dapple and chocolate also. They will be red in a month and in a year. |
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Post by Cyberdachs on Oct 21, 2009 11:38:49 GMT -5
New picture my new young Kaninchen female... WDS Bratislava Junior Class (19 entered dogs) Exc.3 Cyberdachs Cindy Crawford Full Grandgables Bloodline...  |
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Post by Kantrace on Oct 21, 2009 13:35:12 GMT -5
she is lovely girl but I like more your black and tan MS/KS dogs  |
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Post by pinedax on Oct 21, 2009 17:16:10 GMT -5
 Pinedax Sandnes Barney. This CHOCOLATE and Tan puppy is 6 weeks(42 days)old. The colour of your puppy in the UK and Ireland would be called a Shaded Red. You insult Dachshaus,Kinchville and Excellmagic as they have the knowlage of breeding. You insult Dachshaus Chocolate Dapple as it is a very good pattern and type. You think Grandgables is best but will only produce acceptable puppies if they match the female. I think you need to look,learn and listen to these Russian Ladies. Even the one that was exported to the Cezch Republic. |
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Post by Cyberdachs on Oct 22, 2009 4:54:08 GMT -5
Pinedax... Thanks your kind opinion.. . So...I think i never insulting nothing and i love all russian girls.. , ...but i think you now insulting me...but this is not problem for me... This is open forum..  But I if remember well i not ask your opinion my puppies and when dachs like me... Sorry ,i now look your website and but I think for you also need look,learn for example from the Grandgables breed...and when dachs is good type in Europe... ,Sorry this my oponion and this is not insulting... I want All the best to you and your dachsies! |
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Post by Cyberdachs on Oct 22, 2009 5:02:53 GMT -5
Dear Tihana I entered the Zagreb Clubshow and i want look on live your new young nice rookies.. Tibor |
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Post by dachshaus on Oct 22, 2009 5:47:03 GMT -5
Cyberdachs
Wow, the another choco-tan dog in your breeding? ;D ;D ;D
Wow number 2: you shows the fascinating level of education and culture...
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Bloodline is full Grandgables...
